You’ve spoken about humanising players and normalising conversations around mental health, especially for young people. You’re still a very young person and player in the grand scheme of things! You’re also part of a generation that had to navigate and grow up during COVID. How do you think that period of time affected people’s mental health?
When you discuss it, there was definitely the footballer-side and the human-side of me that had challenges with that - because of the age I was during COVID. It was quite isolating at times in all honesty, as it was for everyone. Having a lot of time on your own, that was when I realised looking after your mental health is something you need to put time into and prioritise.
You have to operate at such extremes as a player - epic losses, epic wins. How do you remain level headed?
Part of it is normal to me because I’ve been in the professional game for a number of years now, but when I do take a step back and think about things like that - the level of intensity we work at - it’s something that all high performance athletes have to experience.
It’s really important for us, when we do have rest days and time away from the sport, that we take time to be a person as well as a footballer. You need to give both your body and mind time to rest fully. It’s really important to find what gives you energy; you need to find those ‘things’ to help with your rest and recovery. That’s something I’ve worked on these past few years, getting to know myself more as a person not just a footballer. That way, you’re not living at this constant high level of intensity. I think being able to say “sometimes I don’t feel great” or “I tried this and it didn’t work” it’s a constant journey and learning process when it comes to mental recovery. If talking about mental health was an easy thing for everyone to do, we wouldn't be having a conversation about it.
An ongoing topic of conversation in the women’s game is ACL damage. In your opinion, how do physical injuries affect athletes’ mental health?
Long term injuries in general definitely affect mental health. I’ve had personal experiences of it and that’s what kick-started my mental health journey. I was feeling certain emotions and I didn’t have the right words or experiences to identify what those feelings were. When I was at university, I did my dissertation on the psychological impact of long term injury because it was so personal to me. When you go into physio everyday on your road to recovery it’s always, “how’s your knee? How’s your back? How’s this part of your body?” mental health isn’t given the same space or time to be spoken about.
You’ve been trained by two of the best coaches in football: Emma Hayes and Sarina Wiegman. How important is good leadership in creating a healthy environment for people’s mental health?
That’s what leadership is all about: you set the tones and set the norms. If it’s (mental health) given priority from the coaches, that becomes the norm and both Emma and Sarina are both advocates for openly discussing how people are feeling. They’re big believers in, ‘you’re a footballer but you’re also a person’. That’s so important because you then feel at ease and okay in how you’re feeling. They’re high performing managers but they’re also people. They also have other things going on in their lives just like us, and that helps players massively - them being in touch with the importance of mental health.
How have you managed the increased exposure the women’s game has received in recent years? There’s a lot of positives that come with that, but also a lot of negatives.
It wasn’t one day I woke up and thought I suddenly needed to speak with someone, it is a constant journey and you get a little bit better at managing your emotions when it comes to things like this. I really struggled for a long time to speak openly about my mental health and now I’m at a point where I do feel more comfortable - and I’m really proud of that. I’ve said it already, but make sure you protect your energy and create relationships where you can talk about how you’re feeling. That’s how we normalise these conversations.
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